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SnowFire

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Re: What to do as USSR with average start hand?
« Reply #25 on: November 20, 2012, 10:45:33 pm »
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*Re holding 5YP, especially if you China card: Drawing CIA Created is the worst case, yes, as noted before, but it still isn't THAT horrible.  First, it's of course possible the US will show it to you.  Second, if Decol/Destal aren't played for you on turn 1 by the US player (very unusual!), if you draw CIA...  you just play it AR1.  Oh no a 1 op coup of Soviet Iran or something.  Okay, fine, let's go the full nightmare scenario - you play China card turn 1, you hold 5YP, and the US headlines Duck & Cover round 2.  Well, you send 5YP to space and hold CIA Created and curse your luck.  There isn't anything other than 5YP or UN Intervention that can force the USSR to discard in the early War, and if you have UN you either use it for 1 op or just UN CIA -> use 5YP as your AR6 play (or AR5-> skip if you drew Europe Scoring).  So while this sucks, it's safe.

*Re using 5YP for Europe Scoring: Ops are crucial in the Early War, but delaying 3 ops for a 5 VP gain is still a rockin' trade.  I still wouldn't do it unless the US is dominating Europe already on turn 1 AR6, since if the US doesn't make a run for France then, it's likely I can throw away Europe scoring cheaply on T2 AR2 anyway.

* Re Tony32280: As already noted, using Korean War early is a waste, you can get the same effect by just investing those 2 ops in South Korea, and you won't lack for mil ops on turn 1 as the USSR anyway.  I'm not sure who these "most USA players" are who won't immediately coup Iran back - if the Soviet coup of Iran was weak, you can bet I'd coup it right back as the US before it can be fortified.
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Re: What to do as USSR with average start hand?
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2012, 02:22:04 am »
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Hold no card in turn 1 also slightly increases the probability that USSR get to draw Decol and Destal in turn 2.

Well, that's a good point :)
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Re: What to do as USSR with average start hand?
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2012, 08:09:33 pm »
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I would do 4EG 5POL setup; headline Fidel; definaly not play China during turn 1 as it increaeses your chances to get decol & destal (disallows US to hold both of them to round 2)... also the rest of the deck is favoured for you also (Socialist Govs); I would probably lead with Special Relations (so that US couldn't use it so easily for France, since its before Suez & Degaulle) to put 2IPs to Afganistan (so that US doesn't get the whole Iron Triangle... its much easier for you to get back there if you have Afganistan later & Afganistan threats Asia Domination). Oh yeah and although 5years is usually a very good event for USSR, I would probably use it to discard Truman in order to fasten the deck cycle.
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Re: What to do as USSR with average start hand?
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2012, 08:32:52 am »
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I would headline Fidel, save the china card for turn 2 and hold 5 year plan (for the opportunity to dump a scoring on a later turn) unless i desperately feel i need the extra ops now. With no 4-ops card in hand for coup in iran against 2 inf., and not willing to use china card yet, the safe opener is to go 2 to afghanistan. Because you have the indo-pak war, keep playing in and around the iron triangle, ie. : iraq, iran, afghanistan, pakistan, india and hope to steal 3 ip. either in india or pakistan and/or hope for decent/good realignments.
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